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		<title>Citadel piles on E*Trade</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Gracie</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[The story begins:
Investors may do well by taking Citadel’s investment in E*Trade as a sign the worst of the mortgage market turmoil is behind us.
And while it goes on to tout Citadel&#8217;s incredible returns from buying up distressed assets as the big sign to jump on the bandwagon, there&#8217;s probably more reason to be cautious [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>The <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2007/11/29/etrades-white-hot-white-knight/">story</a> begins:</p>
<blockquote><p>Investors may do well by taking Citadel’s investment in E*Trade as a sign the worst of the mortgage market turmoil is behind us.</p></blockquote>
<p>And while it goes on to tout Citadel&#8217;s incredible returns from buying up distressed assets as the big sign to jump on the bandwagon, there&#8217;s probably more reason to be cautious than to start accumulating the financials.  There are two simple reasons for this.</p>
<p>Citadel invests in very specific asset classes (i.e. natural gas derivatives with Amaranth and credit spreads with <a href="http://michaelgracie.com/2007/08/01/two-people-smiling-sowoodcitadel-edition/">Sowood</a>) when doing these distressed buys.  Second, the transactions are being consummated at enormous discounts.  E*Trade has had specific trouble related to sub-prime assets on their books, and Citadel has done their due diligence - they know precisely what they are getting, including but not limited to what if any off-balance sheet items might be lurking around.  And they have the capital to convince.</p>
<p>Many banks and broker/dealers still don&#8217;t know what their true exposure is to <a href="http://michaelgracie.com/2007/11/12/nobody-saw-credit-problems-coming/">credit and rate derivatives</a> and CDOs, what <a href="http://michaelgracie.com/2007/11/15/who-owns-your-home-loan/">collateral they may be entitled to</a>, or what <a href="http://michaelgracie.com/2007/11/28/first-run-on-a-bank-sighted/">lawsuits might be waiting in the wings</a>.  There are still a ton more sub-prime mortgages, as well as Alt-A and Jumbo classes, <a href="http://michaelgracie.com/2007/11/24/post-holiday-mortgage-mess/">readying to reset just after the new year</a>, and questions are begin to arise regarding the creditworthiness of <a href="http://michaelgracie.com/2007/11/26/the-next-dominos-junk-bond-and-counterparty-risk/">derivative counterparties</a> and <a href="http://michaelgracie.com/2007/11/28/deadbeat-developers-signaled-by-property-derivatives/">commercial developers</a>.  All those issues will fall on&#8230;you guessed it&#8230;the banks and brokerages.</p>
<p>Unless you&#8217;re Citadel, you&#8217;d be wise to sit tight.</p>
<p>UPDATE: Paul Kedrosky has more in-depth commentary on the deal <a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2007/11/29/etrade_citadel.html">here</a> and <a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2007/11/29/etrade_citadel_1.html">here</a>.</p>
<p>UPDATE 2: Discount on the troubled portfolio was <a href="http://www.dealbreaker.com/2007/11/will_banks_mark_abs_to_the_cit.php">around 75%</a>.  Try getting that in the everymans&#8217; marketplace.</p>
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