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		<title>Kicking Squidoo when it&#8217;s down</title>
		<link>http://michaelgracie.com/2007/07/11/kicking-squidoo-when-its-down/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 17:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Gracie</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[There has been a lot of chatter about Squidoo as of late, and most of it isn&#8217;t very good.  Squidoo, a company that&#8230;nevermind&#8230;the official description is here&#8230;has supposedly become a bit of a haven for internet marketers, and that is rarely a good sign.  My take is this (including some background):
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>There has been a lot of chatter about <a href="http://www.squidoo.com">Squidoo</a> as of late, and most of it isn&#8217;t very good.  Squidoo, a company that&#8230;nevermind&#8230;the official description is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squidoo">here</a>&#8230;has supposedly become a bit of a haven for internet marketers, and that is rarely a good sign.  My take is this (including some background):</p>
<p>I put up a lense over a year ago.  Squidoo was barely off the ground, and I was simply curious as to what it was all about.  I spent about an hour doing it, and was left with the impression that the whole bit was pretty easy to use and might make a good tool for the soccer mom set.  Sometime later, I had an email exchange with Seth Godin on an unrelated topic, one that frankly left me with a bad impression regarding Seth himself.  Not long after that I was reminded that I had a lense out there, and I proceeded to take it down and delete my account.  It was kind of a &#8220;screw this&#8221; reaction, and I thought no more about it until Jason Calacanis <a href="http://www.calacanis.com/2007/07/06/why-is-seth-godin-not-talking-about-the-squidoo-problem/">fired a cannon across Mr. Godin&#8217;s bow</a>.  I swung by Squidoo, and immediately found a lot of what people were talking about - tons of pages filled with nothing but keywords, and a ton of highly ranked lenses clearly created by SEO types.  Not good.</p>
<p>Fast forward a few weeks, and you find Squidoo addressing the problem (or at least saying they are addressing the problem), Calacanis is offering congratulations for the efforts (as well as a watchful eye), all while the chatter escalates to the pages of <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/10/google-acting-against-squidoo-due-to-spam/">TechCrunch</a>.  To complete the latest picture, there are plenty of folks offering up their opinion as to why Squidoo now has one foot in the grave because Google is penalizing them.</p>
<p>What I haven&#8217;t found is&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li>Valleywag joining the funeral (in fact they <a href="http://valleywag.com/tech/jason-calacanis/jason-calacanis-v-seth-godin-porn-is-evil-275762.php">pounced on Jason Calacanis</a> instead&#8230;and no, I still don&#8217;t read ValleyWag&#8230;I just paid a quick visit for a quick search)</li>
<li>Any reason why someone would listen to an <a href="http://tubbynerd.com/2007/07/09/squidoo-slap/">internet marketing guy</a> who misspells the word &#8220;Interrnet&#8221; in his blog header</li>
<li>Anyone noting the fact that Google&#8217;s actions against Squidoo are at least slightly hypocritical, considering their very own Blogger was the last bastion of spammers and they dragged their feet on that one</li>
<li>Anyone offering up any constructive suggestions that might aid Squidoo in their battle (a battle against a problem that anyone with a scalable, user generated content-based web app might face at some point in time)</li>
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<p>I can only surmise from these observations that 1) Nick Denton likes Seth Godin and/or isn&#8217;t stupid enough to burn a bridge with a high profile marketing guy sitting in his backyard; 2) guru Ed Dale isn&#8217;t selling many get-rich-quick interrrrrrrrrrnet marketing programs; 3) Google has only gotten around to hitting Squidoo because the site just so happened to be next in line&#8230;a very very long and growing line; and 4) very few people have any good ideas while a lot gain self-worth primarily by kicking other folks when they&#8217;re down.</p>
<p>Number four seems to be the flavor of the day, and I&#8217;m curious to see what people are going to say when those presently winning the high school popularity contest (Facebook and Bebo) get caught in the same rut.  Meanwhile, I am giving a thumbs up to Calacanis and Godin.  Jason gets a brownie button for opening up regarding the situation yet still having enough class to point out when Squidoo was doing something right.  And Seth gets a gold star for keeping quiet, head down, making an effort to solve a problem while faced with obvious adversity.</p>
<p>I hope Squidoo gets the situation straightened out and continues its climb on a cleaner slate, if for no other reason than to hear the deafening silence created by feet in mouths.</p>
<p>UPDATE/CLARIFICATION:</p>
<p>1) I did not drop my Squidoo lense because of any negative opinion regarding the service - in fact, I pointed out that the site would be well suited for soccer moms.  If you can win them, you can win period, which is more than I can say for a lot of services that are, shall we say, less user friendly.   I dropped out because I was a little miffed.  It was an emotional and probably somewhat juvenile reaction - so be it.</p>
<p>2) I don&#8217;t hold grudges - in fact I practice flushing the memory of unpleasant experiences the moment I&#8217;ve garnered a lesson from them.  I did not point out the issue I had with Mr. Godin because I hold a grudge; I pointed it out so there would be no question as to where a &#8220;spam-hater&#8221; such as myself stood, prior to commenting positively on Squidoo and the actions it was taking to right itself (particularly in the face of the bandwagon attempting to push Squidoo through the glue factory door).</p>
<p>On a final note: I like trends - trends are your friends.  Betting on winners and shorting losers is fun and profitable.  I also believe that information flow serves a valuable purpose, particularly in the case of public companies where the sting of a negative event should rightfully be publicized.  Leave investors to digest and take action on that information as they see fit.  It&#8217;s what makes markets such beautiful things.</p>
<p>Clubbing a private, closely held company does not, however, seem particularly useful to me.</p>
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		<title>Seth Godin gets phished</title>
		<link>http://michaelgracie.com/2006/10/11/seth-godin-gets-phished/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 16:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Gracie</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[You are not alone - even marketers get phished.
Some quick answers for Seth:
Yes - it&#8217;s criminal and the purveyors of the messages know this or they wouldn&#8217;t be masking header information and hitting the send button from run-down trailers in the woods;
Yes - it&#8217;s different then robbing a bank, because robbers usually carry guns and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>You are not alone - <a title="Seth's Blog: Criminals" href="http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2006/10/criminals.html">even marketers get phished</a>.</p>
<p>Some quick answers for Seth:</p>
<p>Yes - it&#8217;s criminal and the purveyors of the messages know this or they wouldn&#8217;t be masking header information and hitting the send button from run-down trailers in the woods;</p>
<p>Yes - it&#8217;s different then robbing a bank, because robbers usually carry guns and guns kill people - spam just aggravates them;</p>
<p>Sorry - this mail is nothing new, and not particularly sophisticated.</p>
<p>The end.<br />
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UPDATE: If you can&#8217;t tell the good from the bad, <a title="Techdirt: When You Can't Tell The Phishing Emails From The Legit Ones, Just Ignore Them All" href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20061011/081856.shtml">ignore them all</a>.</p>
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		<title>Spam of the day could be the new 419</title>
		<link>http://michaelgracie.com/2006/05/19/spam-of-the-day-could-be-the-new-419/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 15:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Gracie</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Seth Godin calls his latest email receipt the spam of the day - I call it the &#8220;New Nigerian.&#8221;  Seems that a pile of funds, absconded by tyrants, in secret accounts, ready for expatriation by fine citizens with regular checking accounts, is no longer good enough.
It is all about offshore ostrich farms now, don&#8217;t [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>Seth Godin calls his latest email receipt the spam of the day - I call it the &#8220;New Nigerian.&#8221;  Seems that a pile of funds, absconded by tyrants, in secret accounts, ready for expatriation by fine citizens with regular checking accounts, is no longer good enough.</p>
<p>It is all about <a title="Seth's Blog: Spam of the day" href="http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2006/05/spam_of_the_day.html" target="">offshore ostrich farms</a> now, don&#8217;t you know.</p>
<p>PS: Anyone with specific knowledge in tropical ostrich farm management, please send help to &#8220;morfi.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Godin talks spam and RSS</title>
		<link>http://michaelgracie.com/2006/02/07/godin-talks-spam-and-rss/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Gracie</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[The pushback may be because people don&#8217;t want to change.  Change is tough enough, but when you start talking &#8220;average user&#8221; and &#8220;internet&#8221; in the same sentences, it gets even tougher.  We&#8217;ve barely scratched the surface of the net&#8217;s commercial use, and already folks are set in their ways.  Seth Godin thinks [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>The pushback may be because people don&#8217;t want to change.  Change is tough enough, but when you start talking &#8220;average user&#8221; and &#8220;internet&#8221; in the same sentences, it gets even tougher.  We&#8217;ve barely scratched the surface of the net&#8217;s commercial use, and already folks are set in their ways.  Seth Godin thinks <a title="Seth's Blog: More on stamps" href="http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2006/02/more_on_stamps.html" target="">marketers would be wise to consider RSS</a> as a means to touch users without paying the <a title="Spamroll: A Cure For AOL Rejection" href="http://www.michaelgracie.com/2006/02/03/a-cure-for-aol-rejection/">impending price</a> for access to the same.</p>
<p>It makes a lot of sense.  But Seth doesn&#8217;t get all the credit, at least from Spamroll.  Among others, Rok Hrastnik has been <a title="Spamroll: Is RSS the Solution for Emarketers?" href="http://www.michaelgracie.com/2005/02/28/is-rss-the-solution-for-emarketers/">saying this</a> for a while.</p>
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		<title>The many faces of spam</title>
		<link>http://michaelgracie.com/2005/11/30/the-many-faces-of-spam/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Gracie</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[The average, everyday Joe looks at spam from the email inbox only.  The rest of us see trojans lurking in image attachments, links to ID thieves, and stupid comments and trackbacks.  If you are a popular marketing type, you may see even more.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>The average, everyday Joe looks at spam from the email inbox only.  The rest of us see trojans lurking in image attachments, links to ID thieves, and stupid comments and trackbacks.  If you are a popular marketing type, <a title="Seth's Blog: Human battering rams" href="http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2005/11/human_battering.html">you may see even more</a>.</p>
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		<title>Continued effort may surprise you</title>
		<link>http://michaelgracie.com/2005/11/09/continued-effort-may-surprise-you/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 13:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Gracie</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[I envision Point C as some level of adversity hitting, after seeing some success.  It is easy to become a &#8220;deer in the headlights&#8221; when you hit that point.  Run, as true stride may be just around the corner.

***UPDATE***
That doesn&#8217;t mean, however, to climb straight uphill forever.  You have to strike a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>I envision <a title="Seth's Blog: Understanding Local Max" href="http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2005/11/understanding_l.html" target="">Point C</a> as some level of adversity hitting, after seeing some success.  It is easy to become a &#8220;deer in the headlights&#8221; when you hit that point.  Run, as true stride may be just around the corner.<br />
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***UPDATE***</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean, however, to climb straight uphill forever.  You have to strike a balance between <a title="Thought Market: A bucket of chips, or a pail of gasoline" href="http://www.michaelgracie.com/2005/05/15/a-bucket-of-chips-or-a-pail-of-gasoline/">putting more chips in the bucket</a> and learning how to cut your losses.</p>
<p>Case in point from an investing master:</p>
<p>Warren Buffett, whose Berkshire Hathaway lost $900 million earlier this year from his foreign-currency investments, cut his exposure to forex contracts from $21.5 billion in June to $16.5 billion in September, before the recent strengthening of the U.S. dollar. - <cite>Institutional Investor</cite></p>
<p>Mr. Buffett cut his losses, and while they seem big, paled in comparison to the billions BH made being &#8220;short&#8221; the dollar.</p>
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